Peace Plan for Gaza

I think Muslim around the world should stop being emotional and seek logical solutions to Palestine issue because as it's clear Israel will always be there and Palestine have to be smarter about dealing and fighting against it.

Jews are smart and well organized, Palestine can't even agree among themselves and their actions aren't well planned, they can't even get along among themselves which makes it hard for them to fight.

Hamas shot their extra rockets and Fatah won the aids money and the poor Gaza people got the disaster part. I think they should rebel against Fatah and Hamas and form a united front.

They have to accept that Israel isn’t going anywhere for the next 50 years at least. Then Abbas and his "government" needs to JOIN Israel and ERADICATE Hamas, Fatah, and every other "group" (terrorists)!

Then and only then, will you have a single government who can actually look out for those people. When a spokeswoman for Abbas was asked on CNN if they had any contact with Hamas, she answered no.

As we say in Arabic, Illi fat, mat. What’s past is dead. No matter what you type here, say, do, or think. ISRAEL IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

Get that in your head, and start working around it.

I spend four years of my teenage years in Northern Ireland and when asked about 'the troubles', used to say "I don't care about either side anymore. If they want to go around looking for reasons to kill, why should I worry about it? When both sides want peace the people spouting violence will eventually lose and the people wanting to talk will win. I don't care who was right or wrong anymore, I'm just want to live my life without hearing another kid in my neighborhoods has died."

Wonder if that moment will hit the Middle East (from both sides)?

Hamas killing Palestinians

Open the video Link below

It may help you to understand why Israel is now fighting Hamas in the Gaza strip

I've seen many videos and photos, but this is by far the best description of Hamas ! This video was made not by Israelis, but by an Arab , a Palestinian who shows you who hamas really is !

Israel has been telling this to the world for years, but the world prefers to turn the deaf ear and blind eye to the sad truth!

Hamas against the Palestinians! This is how they succeeded in being elected - by force !

Watch and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_OGhj43GAE

Gajah sama Gajah berjuang, Pelantuk mati ditengah-tengah

Gazan Blaming Hamas for Death

Enough is enough, say tired Gazans
Reuters
Published: January 17, 2009, 23:27

Gaza: Exhausted by lack of sleep, shattered by countless bombs and drained by bereavement, Gazans held out hope for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas on Saturday, if only for a chance to collect their lives.

"We do not care how, we want a ceasefire. We want to go back to our homes. Our children need to go back to sleep in their beds," said Ali Hassan, 34, a father of five who is sheltering in his brother's house in the centre of Gaza.

"Enough is enough," he said, explaining how he had moved his family from north Gaza to the centre of the city two weeks ago to escape Israeli bombardments in his neighbourhood.

"Our ears were about to blow up from the continued bombings. We are even lucky to be alive still," he said.

Despite stepped-up diplomacy and signs a ceasefire could soon be declared, Israel has sustained its three-week-old air, tank and artillery assault, seeking to deal a definitive blow to Hamas and its rockets before any truce takes hold.

In the face of the onslaught, which Palestinian doctors say has killed 1,200 Palestinians, including 410 children, Hamas has continued to fire rockets into Israel, albeit fewer than before, with seven launched yesterday, according to the Israeli army.

Thirteen Israelis have been killed in the conflict, 10 soldiers and three civilians hit by rocket fire.

With several relatives killed, and little sign Hamas's missiles were having a deep impact on Israel, Hassan suggested it was time for Israel to take the initiative and cease fire.

"A unilateral ceasefire from the side of Israel would be a blow to Hamas, a political defeat," he said.

"Israel could claim they entered the heart of Gaza, destroyed the places, killed Seyyam and can come again any time," he said, referring to Hamas security chief Saeed Seyyam, who died in an Israeli air strike on Thursday.

Others, though, were not convinced, saying Hamas should instead try to strike an open-ended ceasefire with Israel.

"That way they can claim it is not permanent and can break it once they have the ability to," said Aziz, a taxi driver.

"Hamas has made a point. Hamas has not been broken, they are continuing to fire rockets when they want and where they want. But they need to think wisely of the gains and the losses."

Stopping rockets

The gains and losses of Hamas's policy are a major point of discussion among Gazans, many of whom instinctively support Palestinian resistance against Israel, but question the cost in lives and destruction of the past three weeks. "Rockets must end. What did we gain from them?" said Lama, a secretary for a Gaza company, who would not give her full name.

"Now Hamas is negotiating a truce. They were given an offer to renew it in December but they refused. Now after thousands of casualties, how does Hamas explain that?" she asked.

Hamas has fired around 8,000 rockets and mortars into Israel since 2001, killing 21 people and causing widespread disruption in southern towns. Israel has said stopping rockets is the chief objective of its offensive.

What make the Israeli so blond and merciless in their attacks?

It’s the 19th day, there were far fewer air strikes on Gaza City and other parts of the north than on the previous night, but there isn’t any sign of the war stopping.

What make the Israeli so blond and merciless in their attacks?

In the 1930s the entire Arab world boycotted Israel, they were stranded with no trade and supply lines and that continue into the forties and the fifties they continued to wallow in hunger. Most family in Jerusalem received only one egg a day, the malnourished Jewish can be seen today in Israel. Pregnant women can’t even leave their houses due to the strict curfew.

Isn’t this what those Palestinian facing now?

Jewish refugees came to Israel from all over Arab world because they were force to leave behind all their fortunes in Baghdad, Tripoli, Sudan & etc. They rather live in tents inside mud fields in Israel rather that victimized by those Arab countries. Don’t know for what so ever reason, Arabs hate the Jewish. Even before the setup of Israel State, Jewish homes were latterly burned down by Arabs.

You got to admire all these Jewish people, instead of crying of spilled milk, they work very hard to get where they are today. All this while leaving in a very poor condition, something like Gaza today. Seven people in one small room with a shower tap outside for all twenty inhabitants and kitchen that not even fit to make sandwiches.

They laughed at their own misery and found whatever joy they could in being alive and they emerged from hell into a paradise build out of their own sweat and blood. That’s what they did and all these while fighting off seven armies when they announced independence in accordance with the UN resolution. Later facing conflict after conflict and their citizen were taxed to the hilt to defend this tiny slither of land.

Jewish used their desperations and made something of it and today you have the Intel chip - the cell phone - artificial insemination - voicemail - sophisticated billing systems - the disk on key - noninvasive digestive cameras - drip agriculture - cd rom and countless other output to be thankful for.. Yes! Please boycott all of the above cause its Jewish Invention. DIRECT FROM JEWISH, not even go through USA!

I wonder why so many Malaysian show so much concern about Palestine? Palestine neighbors don’t really care. Did Israel really treat them bad or they want to make the world believe that the world believe that Israel treated them bad.

Go see how the Lebanese treat their Palestinians restricted from dealing in any reasonable profession whereas Israel have Palestinians as members of parliament lawyers and hospitals are a flush with Arab Israelis many of whom are self defined Palestinian.

Go see how the refugees of Jordan live and compare them to those in shuafat and jenin and you will see how much better they have it in Israel.

Even when the Gazans breached the Egyptian border the Egyptian were mortified by how much wealthier even the Gazans were over the Palestinians of the north sinai who suddenly bought all of their stocks and goods only to sell half of them back for triple the amount.

Did Israel cut electricity to Gaza?

Hamas bombed the very Israeli power plant that sends them electricity. Three rockets were targeted at and landed within its precinct. Are you suggesting Israel need to both fix the damage foot the bill and then continue to send them energy?

Israeli pays a premium because naturally Arab countries don’t sell them energy resources? How many ends does a raw stick have?

You can’t deny the brutality of the Middle Eastern Jewish faces in the hand of Arabs, Syria has but a handful of Jewish and the hundreds of thousands of Moroccan Jewish are nowhere to be found except in Israel and France.

I have been to morocco and love that country for what it is but the synagogues stand decrepit and the old Jewish quarters are sanitized of Jews. Essaouirra once had 14 thousand Jews and now has but 4 families.

Yes what the Arab nations did to Jews was definitely as bad as the Nazis only far longer period of time.

Except for a community in Iran which itself is a mere fraction of what was once one of the largest communities of Jews outside Israel - the Muslim world is virtually Jews-free.

So don’t go blaming the Germans, Arabs beat them at their game.

BUT that is history and today we have a new tragedy.

Take Shuafat refugee camp - a camp built on the traditional lands of Arab shuafat within the ring of greater Jerusalem. These people need to start living normal lives. They’re on Palestinian land anyway. Why not pave their roads? Why not sort out their own sewage system and regulate their local tax contributions? Why not live and negotiate your terms through dignity and productivity rather than riots and violence?

We need to both be willing to use the mouth instead of the gun if dialog is to ever become a viable option.

And it has to be. Because as so many wiser people said here Violence leads to no peace..

As much as people want to paint Jewish as the region pariah, if the people of every accusing state were to check themselves first - not for the past - just for the present – they are not 100% right!

Facts about Palestine

Israel is a country, acknowledged by the UN and the majority of the world, INCLUDING a few MUSLIM and ARAB countries (Egypt is a prime example)

There is NO country on this planet called Palestine.

"Palestinians" who do NOT have ANY passport, but a "Wathiqa" (Document) may travel as they wish.

Israel has an actual government, a constitution, and a claim to that land. Before Israel, that land was a part of the British mandate of Palestine, a name the British MADE UP. Before 1912, NO "Palestinians" existed. The people who lived there were Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians, and constituencies (kind of) of the Ottoman Empire.

The "Palestinian" issue stems from the fact that their "leaders" are corrupt dogs, and they can’t get along with each other.

You can only be Japanese if there is a Japan, Chinese if there is a China and German if there is a Germany... So... Palestinians are from...? (Again, there is today, NO country called Palestine.)

The correct terminology, based on the geographical setting of Gaza would either be Egyptian or Israeli.

With the absence of either Israeli or Egyptian citizenship, these "stateless people" are just that, STATELESS.

I actually dont have anything PERSONALLY against these people. Nor have I gone through one single situation that makes me "hate" them.

I like facts. There isn’t a Palestine, and thus there can’t be Palestinians. The UN caters to them because they don’t know what to do with hem.

ISRAEL being an actual country has an obligation to protect its people, and if that means genocide, so be it.

"Palestinians" have no such right, as they don’t have a country or government that is allowed to do that for them. They have a "president" who is powerless to stop crazy fanatics as they do what they wish.

Again, if YOU feel strongly about this, if YOU care, then YOU should be there HELPING, NOT sitting in your safe ell off house typing on the computer.

But I don’t expect anything from people who bark with drunken sincerity when ordered. You are pathetic and a prime example as to why the human race as a whole is one vile mess.

Oh, and just because you died, doesn’t mean you are automatically a martyr. There are rules for martyrdom, ones that usually never are present in the Arab Israeli conflict.

Muslim World protests!

It seems that maybe the so-called “Muslim World” should have started protesting a week ago when Hamas (acting as the government of Gaza) suddenly started firing up to 80 missiles a day into Israel. Everybody knew what was going to happen, and Hamas knew as well.

It’s all so predictable. First, Israel waits a few days to monitor the attacks, and let the world witness the Hamas attacks, and gather intelligence about launch sites. Then Israel responds with force. And because the Hamas missiles were being launched from civilian areas, civilian lives would be lost.

Seen it all before

Looking at recent history, Israel does not sit idle while being hit by daily rocket barrages from Gaza, everybody knows that.

Hamas eventually got what it wanted - a full-scale armed response from Israel. But is that what the Palestinian people wanted?

Now everybody is talking about a ceasefire. Well, there WAS a ceasefire - it ended on the 19th December, and that’s when Hamas started firing the missiles into Israel. Another ceasefire will just be a temporary pause, nothing more.

Full scale armed conflict with Israel is good for Hamas - it increases their funding tenfold and gets them sympathy and support from all over the world. I just wish the ordinary Gaza residents could decide whether they want to enter into full-scale war with Israel, instead of Hamas deciding for them.

Palestinian consulate

Palestinian consulate, how can a consulate exist for an entity that isn’t a country?!

Only in the Arab world!

So again, as always, the various factions that make up the Palestinian fiasco cant back one single leader, you have crazy yahoos doing what they want in Gaza, as the actual president (and I use the term lightly) Abbas is against what they are doing... but has no control over them...

I don’t see why this is such a huge issue. You have a "group" not a government, and not a country, attacking a country. Like it or not, Israel IS a country, and has been for 50 some odd years.

And when that country attacked back, it’s bad?

The west bank should attack Gaza, take it over, cleanse it of crazy people, and the give up the dream of having Jerusalem for the next 100 or so years.

The west bank can be Palestine. Simple, maybe one day Israel won’t exist, that land has been MANY countries over the last 2000 years.

For now, wouldn’t having a real country, under one government, be better than what’s going on?

And I’m sick and tired of hearing about this. Palestinians aren’t any more special the Iraqis, or people in Zimbabwe. The world has a thousand and one issues, I’m tired of reading, seeing, and being asked to donate to their case.

In fact, I now want to donate to the Israeli army. No, I’m not kidding.

Also, Malaysia isn’t a democracy; the right to assemble without police permission is not allowed. Those demonstrators in front of the US embassy should have been arrested and sent to Gaza, since they like it so much.

Hamas drew First Blood

Israeli jets attacked the Gaza Strip for a fourth day, with raids on a number of Hamas government buildings.

All pro-arab newspaper said about the 300 plus Palestinians have died since Saturday but none of these newspaper mention about the four Israelis killed by rockets from Gaza.

The Arab people are crying loudly now, condemning Israel for bullying them. They seem to forget that they are the one who drew first blood. Is like jumping into the cage of a lion and blame the lion for the attack.

Israel's right to defend itself from militant rocket attacks and some said they retaliation is excessive but I strongly agreed that they need to totally destroy Hamas. In the same way, Israel is also helping Hamas’s soldier to die a hero. Don’t they want to get there first before it run out of virgins?

An emergency summit of Arab League foreign ministers is scheduled but they are more interested in discussing their economy woes than Gaza disobedient. This is what they call Brothers, LOL!

Egypt and Jordan still hold on to their respective peace and industrial (QIZ) agreements with Israel because they are smart enough to know the real culprit is Hamas as Hamas draw first blood.

There are protests everywhere in Egypt, UAE, Malaysia and even on the blogsphere but all of these protesters only talk, talk and talk only. If they really want to help these Palestine (their so called brothers), those protestors shall sell everything they have and go to Gaza to help out.

Action speaks louder than words… BROTHERS!

Israel to invade Gaza?

Israeli warplanes pounded the Hamas for a third consecutive day on Monday and prepared for a possible invasion after killing at least 307 Palestinians in the air raids.

Israel, which stepped up the air strikes after dark on Sunday, said it launched the campaign on Saturday in response to almost daily rocket and mortar fire that intensified after the Hamas group ended a six-month ceasefire a week ago.

The only way to stop this war is by invading Hamas rule Gaza areas because these barbaric Hamas can never sit down and talk. They all like to die as martyr and Israel is giving them the chance. All Palestinian must kiss Israel flag as a sign of thank you.

Stupid Hamas

Israel attacked dozens of security compounds and weapons storage facilities throughout the Gaza Strip yesterday, killing at least 210 Palestinians, including women and children, and wounding more than 700 others in the bloodiest single day for Palestinians in more than two decades of conflict.

More than 80 Israeli planes and combat helicopters pounded Hamas security installations in the Gaza Strip, the Israeli military was claiming retaliation for rockets fire by militants.

I have only one word for this Hamas supporter…

STUPID!

Israel has countless times warned them not to fire rocket to Israel territories but this Hamas never listen.

Its like a little kid (Hamas) keeps slapping a Giant (Israel). Then Giant don’t feel any pain but tell the little kid to stop.

The little kid thought he is very macho and keep slapping the giant.

When the giant smack him back, he cried loudly and said the giant bully him.

Stupid!

Hamas Vs Israel, only Palestinians people suffers…